EXCLUSIVE: Interview With Prominent ‘Ex-Muslim’ Activist Hazem Farraj, Part II

Daily Wire, by Frank Camp, July 24, 2017:

In part one of my interview with Hazem Farraj, the ex-Muslim spoke about his conversion story, the concept of “real” Islam as it relates to ISIS, and how the West has been deceived by Islamist propaganda. In part II, Farraj continues to talk about the blindness of the West, as well as what makes Islam so uniquely violent.

How The West Was Won (Continued)

Farraj continued to detail how westerners are deceived by Islamic propaganda:

“How do the ignorant, western, non-spiritual, and non-philosophical folks get lied to? They’ll have a guy on the news, and he’ll say: ‘Osama bin Laden doesn’t represent us; he represents the Wahhabi.’ All that is saying is that Osama bin Laden is a Muslim who follows the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.”

“Apologists will say ‘Osama bin laden wasn’t a Muslim, he was a Wahhabi Muslim.’ In our western, Judeo-Christian thinking, we treat it as though it’s akin to different denominations. It’s not.”

This lack of understanding is incredibly dangerous, according to Farraj:

“If we don’t look at Islam for what it is, a political ideology no different than Nazism, we can’t get to the root of it. The only difference is that Hitler wasn’t declared a prophet.”

The Islamic State, Mohammad, & Abrogation

“Whenever you study world religions or cults, you’ll hear about a thing called circumstantial revelation. This is when a faith leader will create a scapegoat, a way out of responsibility, usually at the 11th hour. Similarly, the law of abrogation is an Islamic principle in which new revelations that come from Mohammad’s mouth overwrite previous revelations,” noted Farraj.

“The only way Mohammad could reconcile the peaceful Meccan verses with the more violent Medinan verses was to have circumstantial revelations. By the time he was in Medina, he was such an amazing figure that he could get away with it.”

“People who claim that Islam is peace are reading the Meccan verses, which are outdated and nullified. It’s the equivalent of the way Christian’s see the Old Testament.”

Citing chapter 2, verse 106 of the Quran, which states: “Whatever message we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we bring one better than it or one like it. Knowest thou not that Allah is possessor of power over all things?” Farraj claimed that because of the law of abrogation, “ISIS is aware that what they are doing is completely sanctioned.”

“Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, has a doctorate in Islamic Sharia. He knows exactly what he’s doing.”

“Christians say ‘What would Jesus do?’ Well, what would Mohammad do? Before Mohammad died, in the most chronological Surah that he revealed – which would be the most pure message he could give – what did he say? Did he say: ‘Love your neighbor?’ No. Did he tell them to take care of the poor and innocent? No. He said: ‘Go and fight.’ Chapter nine, one of the bloodiest chapters in the Quran. Surah 9:5 is known as the verse of the sword.”

Intellectual honesty is paramount if the West is to tackle the real issue with any success, said Farraj. Without that, delusion can and will dominate:

“To create a culture that facilitates this lie is detrimental to American foreign policy. Part of the reason the Middle East is burning right now is because we haven’t done the hard work of self-reflection. And it’s not racist to question religious beliefs; it’s not racist to question ideas.”

Further, he noted: “The idea that the Islamic State’s loss of territory means success is nonsense. It’s the ideology. So if ISIS is gone, we have Al-Nusra; if Al-Nusra is gone, we have Hamas. The list goes on and on, and all because we don’t want to deal with the monster.”

Going Forward

“The only way to dismantle the bad guys is to secularize the governments of the Middle East,” said Farraj. “We don’t promote state religion in the U.S. government, yet we promoted Nouri al-Maliki in Iraq. We need to secularize middle eastern governments; we need to export the ideas and values that make America incredible. Some ideas are better than others, and American values are better than Sharia.”

“We need a counter-information war in the Middle East,” he added. “We need to make it look so sexy to be completely human rights oriented, and we need to make the other guys look crazy. Unfortunately, the regimes over there can muzzle that effort. We should look at the Sharia-infused ‘Cairo Declaration,’ which was supposed to offer another version of the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights (UNDHR). We need the United Nations, and specifically the OIC, to abandon any and all tribal culture based on shame or honor and commit to the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights as the standard.”

How It All Collapses

“There’s a group in America called Quranist Muslims. They say they don’t follow the life of Mohammad; they don’t follow the Hadith; they only follow the Quran. But the Quran is littered with amazingly violent things. If you remove those things, there is no identity for the Islamic culture. That’s how you dismantle the radicalism. You repeatedly show the legitimacy of the law of abrogation historically and contextually. You talk about it again and again.”

Final Thoughts

At the end of my interview with Farraj, I opened the floor so that he could offer up whatever he wanted. He concluded with a consequential message:

“If I could say one thing to Americans, it would be to not stop this struggle with radical Islam. We live in an historical moment that we will read about in history books. We are experiencing a clash of civilizations, and may the best ideas and values win.”

“Americans need not cower from what made them great. At the end of the day, people like myself flock to America because of what it stands for. It would be a disaster to see that we are upon a crossroads of history and we don’t follow it through.”

Check out Hazem Farraj’s YouTube channel here, and follow him on Facebook and Twitter for more information.

For a primer on Farraj’s content, here’s one video in a must-watch series in which the ex-Muslim explores Islam and the Quran:


Playlist “I.S. Islam”

One thought on “EXCLUSIVE: Interview With Prominent ‘Ex-Muslim’ Activist Hazem Farraj, Part II

  1. Sadly, not matter how long, how hard, how often, how loud and how many venues ex-muslim’s or those who know the muslim culture because they were born into it and have chosen to leave that culture, say these things, most American’s will not buy into it. Most American’s will turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to anything that upsets their belief system that they can ‘sweet talk’ muslim’s/islamist into changing their ways and become friends with them.

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